Posts by breakfast of champions

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ALERT: NEW LAWSUIT settlement - $13 MILLION

by Watchtower-Free in

http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/135m-awarded-to-bible-teacher-gonzalo-campos-alleged-abuse-victim-jose-lopez-281031832.html.

(published thursday, oct 30, 2014).

thursday, oct 30, 2014 updated at 11:58 pm pdt.

Recent Update - Service Report

by Da.Furious in

on oct. 22, eight brothers were released from prison in turkmenistan by presidential amnesty.

(see 2014 yearbook, p. 31) the ninth brother is still imprisoned, but it is hoped that he will be released shortly.

some were already in prison for three or more years and had been severely mistreated.

breakfast of champions

The 2014 serve-us year was the big push for the Kingdom's 100th year birthday. Do not be surprised to see increases all over the place. More telling will be the figures in years to come.

Yeah, "100 years" has a nice ring to it. . . "102. . . 107. . . 113 years" -- not so much.

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New ExJW here for the first time.

by WideAwake7 in

i am here for the first time ...but have enjoyed reading others experiences that i feel i can relate too.

i used to be an elder for more than 20 years .

i have successfully faded with my wife and children.

breakfast of champions

Welcome!

I'm not sure what you can expect, but if you can talk to an individual's real self and not their cult self - talking about family, sports, recreation, hobbies, etc - they are usually quite laid back.

As far as if anyone corners and tries to "interrogate" you, a Big Smile and say "I'm sorry but I'd prefer not to discuss that right now."

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Using the "C-Word" With My Wife

by breakfast of champions in

months ago, i commented on another thread about a strategy i was using to introduce my wife to the way cults work--without using the word "cult" and scaring her away.

here's my first comment on that thread:.

i pulled hassan's bite model off the internet and imported it into my word processor.

breakfast of champions

GREGOR - I must be either very slow and/or quite innocent: I only "got" your L/N comment this evening!

lol!

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Using the "C-Word" With My Wife

by breakfast of champions in

months ago, i commented on another thread about a strategy i was using to introduce my wife to the way cults work--without using the word "cult" and scaring her away.

here's my first comment on that thread:.

i pulled hassan's bite model off the internet and imported it into my word processor.

breakfast of champions

For anyone looking, my "modified" BITE document can be found in the link in the OP.

Sorry for the "shortness" of my response. . . Just got really busy again .. . .

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Humourous DA letter

by besty in

jw
friends

right- we've been thinking about this.. .

it seems that most da letters are: doctrinal, personal, emotional or or major issues such un etc .

and completely understandably so..but.. .

breakfast of champions

Dear Brothers,

I regret to inform you that I, Breakfast of Champions, no longer wish to be one of Jehovah's Witnesses.

I could have simply faded into the background and not expressed the reasons for abandoning my faith; but instead, I wish to inform you of three of the main reasons as to why I am leaving:

1) Muff-N-Egg sandwiches were an attempt to disguise a slab of egg-colored latex as a breakfast food by putting it in between two slices of stale English muffin. Dreadful.

2) For my entire life, the urinal in the men's bathroom at the Kingdom Hall has never flushed properly. I always feel that I am peeing into other peoples pee. This is gross.

3) All Bethelites have a weird accent.

I appreciate you brother's efforts in considering the import of this letter and my grievances.

Good Luck,

BOC

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Using the "C-Word" With My Wife

by breakfast of champions in

months ago, i commented on another thread about a strategy i was using to introduce my wife to the way cults work--without using the word "cult" and scaring her away.

here's my first comment on that thread:.

i pulled hassan's bite model off the internet and imported it into my word processor.

breakfast of champions

So what is the current situation with her? Is she a super-dub? Does she attend all meetings? Does she study and keep up with the "chariot"? Etc.?

To answer your questions MAGNUM:

No, she was NEVER a super-dub. Probably why I married her in the first place!

Yes, for the time being she attends all meetings. . . . I'll just say our circumstances are complicated.

Yes, she does "study" but increasingly finds the study articles to be all about control and obedience rather than love or being a Christian. She has also commented on how the literature is so simplistic that is it almost unreadable. But yes, she goes to the meeting with an underlined magazine.

Does she "keep up with the chariot?" She thinks the "chariot" thing is complete bullshit. There's actually a story I could tell about that sometime. . . .

What is the current situation overall?

I would say that she is more than halfway mentally out. She sees no future in this religion, and is "staying for now" only for family reasons.

Recently, we have been discussing our long term goals/exit strategy, even down to details like where we might move away to in order to complete a successful fade, as well as which relatives might even exit with us, and which would shun us.

Again, I see this taking years, but at least we're making progress. Right now I have so much on my plate with university, I just want to square that away before making any huge changes anyway.

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Using the "C-Word" With My Wife

by breakfast of champions in

months ago, i commented on another thread about a strategy i was using to introduce my wife to the way cults work--without using the word "cult" and scaring her away.

here's my first comment on that thread:.

i pulled hassan's bite model off the internet and imported it into my word processor.

breakfast of champions

Months ago, I commented on another thread about a strategy I was using to introduce my wife to the way cults work--without using the word "cult" and scaring her away. Here's my first comment on that thread:

Okay, so here's what I did:

I pulled Hassan's BITE model off the Internet and imported it into my word processor. I then control-F'd it and searched for every occurrence of the word "cult" and replaced all of them with the word "group."

I showed the modified list to my wife the other day, actually. All I mentioned was that it was written by a counselor/psychologist who had never heard of JWs. I never mentioned the word cult, but I said it was a study of group psychology and I think it applied to witnesses. She read it.

I said, "What do you think? Anything familiar?"

"Yes, absolutely. And he didn't know who Jehovahs Witnesses were?"

You can read the rest of the thread here:

http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/279759/1/Have-anyone-ask-their-JW-family-member-to-research-Signs-of-a-Cult

Anyway, this is an update on that discussion, and an answer to the question: "So what's the next step?"

First of all, I would like to thank the society for JW.tv. Its mere existence made it SOOO much easier to employ the "C" word with my wife.

So, after watching bits and pieces of JWTV with my wife, I said, "You know what's interesting is that these videos bear a striking resemblence to videos that other cults make," and proceeded to show her a couple of videos produced by Scientology and the LDS.

She did not bat an eye.

Then we discussed how there were certainly surface differences between these groups, but underneath the structure was the same: they are all designed to control people.

I reminded her of the "list" I had shown her months back -- Hassan's BITE model, but with the "C" word replaced by "group."

I then came clean: "That list is actually describing any high-control group, also known as a cult. I just changed all of the instances of 'cult' to 'group'"

Again she did not bat an eye.

Since then, I openly refer to this religion as a cult (only in my wife's presence, of course) and she really never once resisted the idea. In fact. . ..

She can see it.

This is good!

So, for anyone else looking to open their loved one's eyes, this method worked for me, and maybe this experience will help you.

Best,

BOC

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